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By the power of the internet I have been contacted by a colleague Bill, from 35 years ago.

He has recently bought a '50-'51, S3500 TLF15 Ex-Modau Fire Brigade in Southern Germany.

It runs well, but is showing signs of suffering from nearly 60 years hard labour.

When the snow clears away, Iwill be going to have a look at it. It is not far from me.

Bill has not decided if it is going to be a full restoration job yet. I think he needs some persuasion...

I will report back after my visit.

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And another year flashes by.... I am sure they are getting shorter ?

As usual I have felt the need for a change of decoration, a sort of 'Magnolia with attitude' with headings in 'Orange on Turbo'. I hope you like the overall effect. It seems much brighter in here now. I thought you might like to know that December has been another busy month from a site traffic point of view.

The hit total this month is 234,228 and these have been from 108 different countries, although most are from UK, USA and Germany, in that order.

A few more stats are :-

Deutz is your favourite page, by a long way.

94.6% of you use Windows, 3.6 % use a Mac, the odd 2% use mobile phones.

68.7% use Internet Explorer, 22.6% Firefox, followed a long way behind by 'the rest'.

I know thats just a load of numbers, but I find it interesting. Maybe you do ?

There are changes to 'trekking' and 'world maggies' and a large set of pics from my fascinating visit to Melbourne Fire Brigade museum on the 'fire' page where, would you believe this I saw ...my first ever model 200D19 and DLK23 12 in the flesh. Neither vehicle ever came to the UK.

As many of you know in 1965 Magirus Deutz changed the designation of all models from the then familiar Planet name system to a different Alphanumeric layout.

I have now put a full list on the site, which is available by going to 'history' and then down to 1965.

I hope this list is useful to many site visitors.

I am getting many parts requests from people who are restoring Maggies.

If you have any useful items please let me know.

* T A L K I N G   P A R T S  *

I really feel I have acheived completion of a project I have been working on for some time.

I have put together a reasonably comprehensive list of the Deutz engine codes for many models of Magirus Deutz, including most of the older models dating back to 1949.

There are over 300 variations weight/engine variants listed. When you consider that most of them were available in different wheelbases and many of the later models had numerous cab options I cannot even begin to work out how many different versions were made.

I have even included many Bus models, and the legendary Kranwagen models.

Go to the 'deutz' page for link details. I hope you find it interesting

Amongst my increasing stock of memorabilia, I have found a UK dealer list from 30 years ago. Go to 'winsford' and see if it sparks any memories.

I have recently received more information about the Strathclyde Magirus Deutz fire vehicles.

See the 'fire' page for an update.

Recently I was looking through the site stats, to see what you have been 'searching for' so that I can

update the site with your searches in mind.

As you would expect most entries revolve around the words Magirus Deutz.

The software I use is very good at picking up on unusual spellings.

I thought you might like to see some of the more interesting ones.

On the left are a few, which just goes to show that wherever you are in the world and however you wish to spell the name, it does not matter, its all means the same thing. A great range of trucks.

Thank you for your continued interest.

At last.... There are pictures of Maggies currently working in England on 'maggies work'

The site has now been going 2 years and I have just got my first pictures of maggies earning money in England ! There must be more, but where are they ?

I've done it again, I have found another old photo. Its over 32 years old and includes many friends of

Magirus Deutz from 1976. Are you included in the pic ? go to 'factory' and find out.

In the matter of a few weeks I received emails from a large construction site in Iceland, and Roberto in Italy about his Sahara Trek vehicle.

So from Cold to Hot, but both Deutz powered.

Roberto actually apologised for his truck not being a Maggie... so its on the New 'Driven by Deutz' section as mentioned below.

Its not only Magirus Deutz trucks that have benefitted from the amazing Deutz engine.

The most popular section on this website is 'deutz' so I have introduced a NEW feature for you to send in details of other Deutz powered items.

I recently bought a New Book. It has a strange German truck on the front.... But it has loads of Fantastic, Very High quality photographs of Magirus Deutz vehicles, mainly Fire vehicles, some of them very unusual. It is a professional book by an obvious enthusiast. Google translates the title as 'Vicious Frankenstein' ?. But apparently it means 'Trucky Franconia'  (N.Bavaria) The book is by Martin Regner and is available to buy online. ** Click on the book cover to go to a sales site ** If you are into Fire vehicles, it's a must !!

I've made some more additions to the site, with details sent to me.

There are more pics from Alan in Scotland, and François in France, go to 'world maggies'

There are some fire vehicles from Israel, on 'maggies work', and a unique looking S3500 recreation

vehicle from The Netherlands on 'world maggies', in the truck trekking section

As a result of the house move I have found a few more old photos.

Have a look at 'winsford' you might be in the picture !

A site visitor reminded me of a very limited edition 310 which was available in the'70s.

The 310D19FFS Pullman was 'Winsford fitted' with many of the items which owner drivers installed themselves after delivery, particularly for the Middle East run.

Extended roof moulding, Air-Con, Windscreen and Headlight protection, Cab Fridge and more.

Below are 2 old pictures which show it in livery of the original and a later owner.

I would make a guess that it was originally supplied by Rhymney Valley motors, in Gwent ?

If anyone has any further info or pics about this beast, please get in touch.

Original owner ? Clifford R Powell - Gwent	Later Owner Trans UK Continental - Felixstowe

I am now getting a lot of contact and support from South America.

There are some very enthusiastic Maggie fans, in Patagonia, Argentina and Chile.

It is not widely known that there was a manufacturing facility in Argentina where they assembled the 200D16 Rigid and Artic models, and the 200RS bus until the late '70's.

Later on in 1992 they made their own Deutz powered model as shown below.

Dodge Argentina also offered a Deutz engined model, the DD.

The Argentine built FL913 driven Agrale Dynamic	The BF6L913 powered Dodge Deutz

Those of you who have read other pages on this site may have detected that I have not got a very high regard for various moves made by IVECO.

I have recently found an annoying picture of a fantastic truck which IVECO found it necessary to modify badly. Have a look on the 'history' page to see what has annoyed me.

The NEW page 'maggies work' is a place where you will find that there are still Magirus Deutz trucks which go to work every day all over the world.

They are living proof of the reliabilty and longevity which made this marque famous.

There must be many more out there, so lets hear from their proud owners !

I have recently obtained some illustrations of Older Magirus Deutz models and I have added them

in a NEW section on the gallery page. HERE.

I am beginning to get many emails asking where you can buy an Old Maggie as a

renovation exercise. There are now very few operative Maggies in the UK.

If you have or know of any, whatever the condition, especially 232D30FK Tippers, please let me know and I will put the details here for all to see. NO Maggie should be scrapped !

No matter what the condition is, somebody somewhere would like at least a part of it !

Lets get some more Maggies on the road again.

Magirus in Southampton

In 2007 I saw my first Magirus Deutz in the UK for about 15 years !!

And even better, I was taken for a run up the Millbrook Road . It was great to hear the sound of a Deutz engine again, but strange being on the right side with No Steering Wheel .

Thank you very much Andreas. He told me that several other truck drivers were surprised to see a Maggie driving round Southampton. I have put a newer pic on world maggies.

Have you checked out the Winsford page ? and read about my one-man crusade to get the option of Air-Cooled Deutz trucks available to the world again?

No dont laugh about this, I am serious. The engine has been around now for over 60 years.

It is still in daily production and used worldwide in many demanding applications. Why should it not return in a truck ?

Euro2, Euro4 regs ? This is just a challenge for Deutz to work on. They are the experts and I dont think regulations should be allowed to get in the way.

What do you think about this ?

I would be interested to hear from you with suggestions of which manufacturer could be the one to make the move back to Air-Cooling ?

IVECO Deutz ? MAGIRUS Deutz Eurofire ? MERCEDES Deutz ? MAN Deutz ? VOLVO Deutz ? SCANIA Deutz ? MACK Deutz ? ..... just a few possibilities to get your mind working !

UPDATE..... Many Volvo trucks are now driven by Deutz engines (though sadly not Air-Cooled) and even more interesting, TATRA in the Czech Republic are now selling trucks with the option of their own engine which is an Air-Cooled V8 Diesel which meets Euro 5 regulations !

If they can do it, surely Deutz who started the whole Air-Cooling thing, can do better !

Truck & Driver magazine

I have obtained permission to put a new link on the links page, which goes to a .pdf file

of the article which appeared in February 2008 Truck and Driver, for anyone who missed the magazine, and overseas site visitors. Thank you T & D.

Translator Button

Due to the large amount of emails sent from outside the UK I have now added an

amazing Google Translation Button on the home page.

Just 2 clicks and the entire site, with all the links are translated.

This does result in a few badly aligned text sections due to word length changes

but I think it is well worth this small problem.

BOOK REVIEW

This book is a must for all tipper fans. Tony O'Connor is clearly a man who has worked closely with these hard working trucks and operators. It contains many WONDERFUL photos. ( many very rare ones ) It goes back to the era of horse and cart haulage, and tells how the operators have developed over the years. It is very obvious that Tony is well known and respected by all the famous operators featured. The book is written in a very informative and sometimes amusing way. I was concerned on one page where the Magirus 232D30FK is described in such a way that it would appear to have been a :- 'nipple deficient truck with an unhealthy appetite for Diesel' (My Words - Not his !) when compared with a Foden. If you are a FODEN fan you will love this book. It does have 4 Maggies on the cover and more inside. Well done Tony . Your hard work was worth it. To buy this book go to  www.tipperlorries.com

PARTS.....

I am receiving many contacts from people asking for technical info and am doing my best to help them. I would like to hear from anyone (particularly in the UK) who is still running a Maggie.

How does an Air-Cooled engine work ?

I have noticed there have been many enquiries made regarding the operating temperatures of Deutz engines, so I have exercised my brain a bit in an effort to make things clearer, and I have attempted to explain a few details about the wonder that is the Deutz Air-Cooled Engine.

Click HERE to see more, and then scroll down the DEUTZ page ....

NOTE

If you have any Magirus Deutz related questions or have information you wish to share, just email me roland@magirusdeutz.co.uk and I will do my best to get it on this page.